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Post  diamondsandpearls on Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:34 pm

Ooh, loving all your thoughts on the dresses :-)

Interesting point about Gemma. I concentrated on the dullness/sameness of the shape she has for ballroom, but yes, there were some practicality issues too.  I agree than the grey wasn't the most exciting colour for the trassles, but the beading was v pretty.

Just been watching the results show and YASB wins again!  I neglected to notice her Charleston shoes which were divine - gorgeous littel pink n.umbers..  I want!  And then the dress she wore for the waltz with A.nton was everything I would ever want from a waltz dress.  Best dress of the series do far for me. The red poppies on the background of white was both dramatic and subtle all at the same time, and the shape of the dress was sublime.  Also, wrist waft thingies!  Haven't seen those since Erin left I think!  Welcome back! (They add nothing whatsoever to the dance, but I love a bit of arm waft drapery :-) )

And Claudia's shoes on the results show - also covetous... :-D
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Post  B4p on Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:36 pm

I know nowt about fabrics or their cut, but I do like colour, texture and sway. So I've added my 5 penn'orth.

I thought Katya's Rumba dress was a refreshing change, I loved the sandy colour and the shipwrecked floaty vibe.
Nadia's white poppy embellished 'Remembrance' ball gown was absolutely stunning.
Mollie should have got the red for her Paso, instead of Budgie who could have had yellow/orange saucy colours for her Salsa.
Don't like the pastel shades on Gemma, they remind me of a dirty grey sock left in with the whites.
Wasn't keen on Ruth's dresses. She always looked a bit 'matronly' compared to the older Budgie. Would have liked to see her in a floaty ballgown for her foxtrot.
Wasn't keen on Susan's 'twinset & pearls' Tango look. I think she might have looked classy in a dark blue, dark green, or aubergine colour. The eye make-up looked like an advert for a panda - far too OTT. Shame something wasn't done with her hair. Tea dance anyone?
Didn't like Alexandra's black AT dress or the OTT eye makeup. Looked like something even Ceri Dupre would pass on. With her skin tones, why not choose some enamelled type shades, or a more understated style. Check out Rachel's AT dress. Now that was class, pure and simple.

Looks like the budgets been cut this year, especially for the men. At least the jeans haven't reappeared yet.
Suit & dickey bow for An ton (his regular training gear)
Waistcoats for Alijaz & Davood.
A jacket for Jonnie - Hooray
The usual Paso bolero for AJ
A lounge suit for Gorka - Hooray!
Tails & dicky bow for Kevin - Hooray (but for a Tango, or is that just me?)
open shirt for Bio (saves on the button budget)
Black sparkly shirt for Joe (why don't they add some hip details or a belt so that it's easier to see the hip movement on the males?)


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Post  Sid on Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:40 pm

B4p wrote:Check out Rache's AT dress. Now that was class, pure and simple.

I think y'all got this week's frocks covered but another shout out to Rachel's AT dress. Possibly my favourite ever Strictly dress.
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Post  diamondsandpearls on Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:49 pm

B4p wrote:I know nowt about fabrics or their cut, but I do like colour, texture and sway. So I've added my 5 penn'orth.

I thought Katya's Rumba dress was a refreshing change, I loved the sandy colour and the shipwrecked floaty vibe.
Nadia's white poppy embellished 'Remembrance' ball gown was absolutely stunning.
Mollie should have got the red for her Paso, instead of Budgie who could have had yellow/orange saucy colours for her Salsa.
Don't like the pastel shades on Gemma, they remind me of a dirty grey sock left in with the whites.
Wasn't keen on Ruth's dresses. She always looked a bit 'matronly' compared to the older Budgie. Would have liked to see her in a floaty ballgown for her foxtrot.
Wasn't keen on Susan's 'twinset & pearls' Tango look. I think she might have looked classy in a dark blue, dark green, or aubergine colour. The eye make-up looked like an advert for a panda - far too OTT. Shame something wasn't done with her hair. Tea dance anyone?
Didn't like Alexandra's black AT dress or the OTT eye makeup. Looked like something even Ceri Dupre would pass on. With her skin tones, why not choose some enamelled type shades, or a more understated style. Check out Rache's AT dress. Now that was class, pure and simple.

Looks like the budgets been cut this year, especially for the men. At least the jeans haven't reappeared yet.
Suit & dickey bow for An ton (his regular training gear)
Waistcoats for Alijaz & Davood.
A jacket for Jonnie - Hooray
The usual Paso bolero for AJ
A lounge suit for Gorka - Hooray!
Tails & dicky bow for Kevin - Hooray (but for a Tango, or is that just me?)
open shirt for Bio (saves on the button budget)
Black sparkly shirt for Joe (why don't they add some hip details or a belt so that it's easier to see the hip movement on the males?)

The bit;s I've bolded I am so very much in agreement with B4. Literally just before I read your post I was looking at Susan and thinking a dark purple would have been great for her tango, and then Mollie could have got red for her Paso (red and gold woul have been better than the gold and red she got, but red and black would have been even better). It seems weird she lost out on the red to people who really didn't NEED red...and in fact would have been better in other colours. BAH!

And poor Ruth - she may not have Budgie's petite frame, but she has a lovely hourglass figure and the outfits always looked, as you say, very matronly. She could have been Mae West but was May Be...

Re Susan's eye make up - a few comments on this (esp about it being more heavy on one side than the other) but I noticed no lopsidedness and actually... I confess I rather like it! Alex's eye makeup wasn;t my favourite but I thought it was ok for her dance......

But Ohhhh....*sigh*. YASB's dress! Totally wondrous ... MORE PLEASE!!!!!
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Post  diamondsandpearls on Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:56 pm

Sid wrote:

I think y'all got this week's frocks covered but another shout out to Rachel's AT dress. Possibly my favourite ever Strictly dress.

It was my second best... I LOVED the backless rumba dress. Ooh - just had to check it out again and that whole routine sends shivers down my spine. SO rare for a rumba.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8LNxz51y2A

Tell me again ,why didn't Rachel and Vincent win??

PS (I watched the scoring and noted the date - alomnst exactly nine years ago today. And Arlene is givng out her first 10 of the series.... Verry in-ter-esting Meesterr Bonnd, no?
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Post  mauveangel09 on Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:03 pm

Great comments about the dresses - I agree that YASB's dress that she wore for the waltz with A nton was truly divine - the white with the poppy embroidery - one of the best dresses I've ever seen on SCD  (What a pity Queen Nathalie wasn't wearing it! Smile )  

I think that Gemma's dress would have worked better had it been in ice blue to match with Alijaz rather than the silvery grey colour.   I actually liked Mollie's dress but I agree, she could have had red and Debbie could have had gold which is a good colour for the Salsa.  

For the judges and presenters the only horror dress this weekend for me was the one that Shirley wore in the results show - it looked like the dress had been made from a 1970s net curtain - most odd.  

I couldn't believe how horrible the colours were on Ruth's dress - so unflattering. Thumbs down I'm afraid, Vicky Gill.   The style was ok but she could have looked lovely - as she has done in most of the other costumes - in a better classic colour - the colours were so dull and odd - at least she could have gone out looking better Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  Twirlie on Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:37 am

diamondsandpearls wrote:[
Tell me again ,why didn't Rachel and Vincent win??
I reckon it was a combination of things. For some reason or other which I could never fathom, she was quite unpopular in some quarters. Some people were quite vitriolic about her, I never understood why. Tom of course did a great comedy routine for his show dance which the GBP just loved. Rachel's was more dance based and very exciting but not so much of a crowd pleaser as Tom's though generally better danced.  There were a couple of tiny hiccups and one last very small point, she did fall over at the very, very end of the show dance. Just at the point where the final phone votes were being cast. A small point perhaps but it may have been influential.

Like a few others I've been having a look through Rachel and Vinc ent's dances on YouTube. They are so beautiful, so pure. No extras, props and very little in the way of "faffin' about" before dancing properly. They obviously got on well together and Rachel's enjoyment of the dances was quite evident. They're a joy to watch.
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Post  jingle on Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:16 am

mauveangel09 wrote: 
For the judges and presenters the only horror dress this weekend for me was the one that Shirley wore in the results show - it looked like the dress had been made from a 1970s net curtain - most odd.  

I agree, that crocheted thing was so peculiar!! Looked uncomfortably starchy, and unflattering too.
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Post  saxonsiren on Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:15 am

Luckily Shirley didn't start to unravel! However re visiting past series 4, 5 , 6, 7 oh how gorgeous the costumes. Soft floaty dresses, tux & tails for the Gents. Serene music and omg footwork shown on camera! Hardly any props or faffing just simply dance cyclops
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Post  Sid on Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:31 pm

diamondsandpearls wrote:
Tell me again ,why didn't Rachel and Vincent win??

PS (I watched the scoring and noted the date - alomnst exactly nine years ago today.  And Arlene is givng out her first 10 of the series....  Verry in-ter-esting Meesterr Bonnd, no?

They used to call her Rachbot on the boards. And yet, where they saw robotic, I saw beautifully subtle and understated.

Speaking of 007, don't you think Katya's destiny is to be a Bond Girl some day?!
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Post  diamondsandpearls on Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:32 pm

Sid wrote:

They used to call her Rachbot on the boards. And yet, where they saw robotic, I saw beautifully subtle and understated.

Speaking of 007, don't you think Katya's destiny is to be a Bond Girl some day?!

Yes, absolutely!

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Hmm... not sure. Her Cockney Russian accent is not quite de rigeur....!
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Post  mauveangel09 on Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:18 pm

Sid wrote:

They used to call her Rachbot on the boards. And yet, where they saw robotic, I saw beautifully subtle and understated.

Speaking of 007, don't you think Katya's destiny is to be a Bond Girl some day?!

I remember that before the final there was a big controversy as to whether Tom Chambers should have been in the final. It was going to be a two couple final (someone must have dropped out along the way). There were three couples in the semi-final - and they let Tom through on some sort of voting technicality/complaints - can't remember exactly now - maybe someone else remembers the exact details. It really was one of those years that the series was won on the showdance as I don't think Tom had been previously tipped to be a winner and then B rendan and L isa crashed out half way through the final with a duff showdance (much to my disappointment and in my mind the runner-up to the E r in doll dance in terms of showdance fiascos!) and Tom and Camilla smashed it. Their variety style showdance seemed very different at the time - in the early series of SCD the showdances either seemed to be like the salsas or American Smooths that we see now. On another year, I remember Queen Nathalie getting told off for doing a lift that was too high (whilst dancing with Ricky Whittle) and being told by L en to 'save it for the showdance' - how things change eh??

The other thing I remember about the Tom/Lisa/Rachel year was that the BBC boards were really bitchy!! I remember the 'robot' comments S id - and a few more!! It was a full on fight and the series seemed much more competitive than the ones that immediately preceded it.

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Post  B4p on Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:43 pm

Sid wrote:Speaking of 007, don't you think Katya's destiny is to be a Bond Girl some day?!
She does all that 007 stuff in her lunchbreak. The girl's unstoppable Suspect
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Post  diamondsandpearls on Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:50 pm

Yes Mauve - I remember the Tom Chambers controversy.  He was always banging on about getting married and having put it on hold due to Strictly, but he was still spending aeons of time organising it (as if!....) I found him very tedious and quite 'meh' as a dancer - he was in my Agin pile actually.  And then at teh last second it was decided that they couldn't have a two person final (Rachel v Lisa) and so, despite the voting already being done adn counted and verified bla bla bla, they just announced it suddenly, out of the blue, that it was going to be a three horse race after all. And I guess Tom was next on the leader board/had the most public votes?  Really can't remember, or care to remember.

But then he came out and did his tap dancing (which he was also always blethering on about - did I mention I was Agin him...?) and even I had to concede it was the most pleasing and best dance on the night.  Lisa's dance is actually WORSE than Colin and the doll - that was bizarre, but I can watch it and I know what Erin was trying it do even though it didn't come off, but I cringe and have to hide behind the sofa if Lisa's showdance comes on...  And Rachel did an ok Latin medley sort of effort with lifts that they are doing in week one these days, and then yes, had a bit of a stumble at the end.

And so Tom won....

And it all goes to prove my point that if EVERYONE was allowed to get to the end and not be knocked out, even the duffers might surprise us all.  Or at list the middle of the board meh crowd.  Based on Tom, absolutely everyone has a shot of winning if they are actually allowed to dance in the final...

But nobody listens to me.....  So a knock out contest it remains.  Unless you are getting married directly after strictly and you have your tap shoes with you... Then the rules can be changed and you can dance....  Simples innit?

Bitter? Me? You bet.
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Post  saxonsiren on Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:56 pm

I recall the week they decided not to let anyone go! The week before someone had pulled out and a knickers in twist re a few phone He is. And we obey him. had stopped working. They decided not to let anyone go semi final week. I loved Tom all the way through and loved his showdance. Lisa and Brendan's showdance a bit of a damp squib in the end.
Quite a few finals have been Won and Lost by the showdance... I so, so haven't got over dollgate No No ....

Katya as a bond girl fab idea possibly a Bond theme dance for her?




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Post  B4p on Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:06 pm

saxonsiren wrote:Quite a few finals have been Won and Lost by the showdance... I so, so haven't got over dollgate No  No ....

Katya as a bond girl fab idea possibly a Bond theme dance for her?
me neither sax, Dollgate - somethings you never get over. By the way, tell Tango Erin is on ITT tomorrow.

It seems every week is showdance week now. I wish they'd strip it back to fewer props and more dancing again.
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Post  B4p on Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:32 pm

I mentioned on another thread but I would like to see some sort of hip marker on the males too. We have all the short layered dresses for the females and it's easy to see their leg/hip action, but not so easy when the males wear all black and wide legged trousers. Couldn't some sequins be put onto the side hip area of the males trousers or even a belt so you can see some hip/leg action or waist circles a bit easier?
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Post  saxonsiren on Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:14 pm

We used to have some snazzy designs on the trousers down the sides or at the bottom of leg. We also had some fantastic chiffon shirts with a glittery pattern motif on...
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Post  Sid on Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:22 pm

Tomgate was tricky because the voting system collapsed - even if he'd topped the public vote, he'd have ended up in the dance off, which meant it was a waste of voters' money. They had no choice but to put him through. What with John Sergeant withdrawing, that was quite a chaotic year (and especially catty on the boards mauve, you're right!).

saxonsiren wrote:Katya as a bond girl fab idea possibly a Bond theme dance for her?

B4p wrote:She does all that 007 stuff in her lunchbreak. The girl's unstoppable Suspect

lol! B4!

I know Bond themed ATs have been done to the point of becoming cliche but I'd so make an exception for Katya. Would a View To A Kill work? (probably not!). Not Goldeneye tho, as that belongs to Mark and Karen, always.
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