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Re: Judges 2017

Post  CaledonianCraig on Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:04 pm

saxonsiren wrote:Cc for me I'd replace no hesitancy. Why should a judge be safe from the chop after one series? Pro dancers have been axed after one series with not so much as a blink of the eye attitude..Darcy bless yes should of been changed.
I thought after L.en we might get 5 judges and an ex pro dancer from show would have been terrific.  E,rin shines out for me as a firm but positive judge....

We may not agree on our change of Judge but I love our friendly forum Very Happy  Very Happy ....


Our great wee forum thrives on difference of opinion. cheers
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  saxonsiren on Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:12 pm

flower sunny cheers

It does and thank goodness xxx
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  Sid on Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:36 pm

I don't think Shirley's scoring's been any more erratic than anyone else. L.en used to have a right boner for sportsmen on the show - always gave them higher-than-you'd-expect marks.

saxonsiren wrote:
Sid although Brendan said my dear I,for one didn't as a female take it as a derogatory comment. We have had so many darlings etc from C,raig no problems and B,runo also using my dear/darling or love on occasions too.

Fair do's sax but the reaction from female viewers on my Twitter TL was quite different! I can't really compare it with C.raig's 'darling' which he uses with both sexes whereas B.rendan's comment reminded me of condescending men who tell women to "calm down dear". If someone addressed his wife like that he'd lose it.
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  saxonsiren on Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:25 pm

I think if the term calm down had been used I'd have exploded then! A short poll of 4 other female fans all thought same as me it didn't ruffle feathers. I think maybe I'm heading towards twin set and pearls brigade cyclops oops I need to jolt myself out of that....

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Re: Judges 2017

Post  Sid on Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:26 pm

Me too Sax - I miss his cheeky, flirty humour. He's like a Cha Cha in human form.
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  Twirlie on Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:07 am

saxonsiren wrote:
We may not agree on our change of Judge but I love our friendly forum Very Happy  Very Happy ....


cheers cheers cheers
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No Silver tongued Italian Stallion

Post  Poppetlovestango on Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:24 pm

Zoe has said on ITT that Silver tongued Italian Stallion will not be judging tomorrow night due to work commitments.
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  TANGOLERO on Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:39 pm

Poppetlovestango wrote:Zoe has said on ITT that Silver tongued Italian Stallion will not be judging tomorrow night due to work commitments.

Which means? Who will be first reserve?
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  B4p on Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:23 pm

I hope it's not another 'has been' that's only been given a 10 paddle scratch
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  TANGOLERO on Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:35 pm

B4p wrote:I hope it's not another 'has been' that's only been given a 10 paddle scratch

Donny Osmond's available I hear, but please...... not Vernon Kay..... study


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Re: Judges 2017

Post  CaledonianCraig on Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:44 pm

According to the BBC website there will be no replacement. However they could use Aston as he is an experienced dance judge.
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  B4p on Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:05 pm

lol!
CaledonianCraig wrote:According to the BBC website there will be no replacement. However they could use Aston as he is an experienced dance judge.
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  B4p on Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:06 am

What a strange night.

Why give the judges 10 paddles when they only use 2 or three?

Why give detailed critiques praising the dancers, then give low scores?

How did Alexandra get one more point than Davood? Why mention 'being picky' just with her?

Why so many ties on the board? Why not just strike a Strictly silver coin and toss that instead?

Why has Br uno decided to shack up at L en's place in LA for the week?

Why has Cr aig's botox worn off so quickly?

Did Cr aig decide in advance to 'channel Br uno' on Ruth's dance or was it random?

Next week's Halloween, so all the current craziness is likely to get worse affraid
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  saxonsiren on Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:56 am

I feel B.runo looking for better deal in USA and possibly knowing sands of time turning against him?
3 judges do not work only odd number would work is 5! A guest judge or a "pack of lard sitting on judges desk " would have worked. H IGNFY did it when guest Roy H couldn'take it Mad Laughing

Alex has had a few ringer stories so out come the picky bits ie just noticing the pigeon toes she had last week (3=10's No )

Think C,raig went for opportunity and to remind viewers he is human!
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  Twirlie on Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:06 am

saxonsiren wrote:

Think C,raig went for opportunity and to remind viewers he is human!

It's easy for us all to forget that he's an actor and director as well. "Over the top" is easy for him - he's playing Miss Hannigan in Annie just now at the Piccadilly Theatre in London - to rave reviews I might add. Obviously the understudy goes on in place of him on Saturdays. Lucky understudy!
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  Sid on Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:37 pm

On the one hand it was good the judges got to give more detailed critiques. On the other, I hate that 3 scores only adds to the number of ties. And can you imagine the devastation if any couple had seen three 10s go up for their dance? No court in the land would've convicted them for murdering B.runo Very Happy


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Re: Judges 2017

Post  B4p on Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:38 am

Well my sum-up word for tonight's judging is spikey.

Usually it's the week after Halloween that the judges start to mark down and nitpick, but it started with Alexandra last week, and by this week, the nitpick disease has gone viral. Very little constructive praise. Lot's of distructive criticism with tinges of favouritism showing. Twood seem that the favourites for the final have had their tickets punched, unless the public throws a spanner in the works.

Cr aig. Even with his joker smile he still looked murderous. Cheer up man, and throw a lifeline to some of the strugglers. It must be soul destroying to work your butt off all week for hardly any credit.

Darcey - Where's 'Ya-Ya' Darcey from the first series gone? What have you done with her, and can Strictly afford the ransom? Man, she's actually stringing some sensible sentences along. You go girl. I know you like a good top-line, but your vocal lines have improved beyond recognition. A good mix of the critical and positive encouragement. Well done and keep it up.

Shirl the twirl - Miss frosty pants tonight. Criticising the contestants for the Pros choreography (Janette & Nadiya) is just not on. The destroyer of Davood, now please give him one more chance and bring him back to life. Nitpicks Alexandra & Mollie, but never Debbie or Ruth? Cruella indeed.

Br uno - What's he on? He sounds like he's been away a month and completely out of touch with the contestants. Hasn't he seen any training VTs? Should have been dressed as the evil step-mother. That Beetlejuice outfit looked like it had been nicked from Pentonville.

As good old Vin cent would say 'Time to turn the frittata'
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  B4p on Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:55 pm

Tonight's word for the judges - Grumpy. Must be sitting on too many sequins. In general, I found all 4 discouraging, and on occasion downright rude.

Br uno - Rude and dismissive rather than constructive. No positive encouragement for Ruth on the dance off. Everyone knew she was a gonna, but he could have been kinder. The attitude was more like 'why waste your time. Go for a cup of tea whilst Jonnie gets his Blackpool ticket'.

Cr aig - Too much pantomime villain, and it's getting tedious. More light & shade from the judges bench please. The resurrection of his 'dull-dull-dull' comment sent me back years! It was unnecessary. I'm not sure what he expected in a Foxtrot to that Adele tune. He was lucky Oti at least attempted some choreography to it, she could have just borrowed An ton's boaters & canes instead.

Darcey - A bit vapid this week. If she mentions top-line again, I'll pickle me walnuts. Please vary it a bit. She rareley mentions legs or feet, which, for a dancer I find very weird. After all, asking Jonnie to smile is SO dance orientated, whilst joining in the pack to maul Mollie was just too easy.

Shirley - Maybe I watched a different Gemma. I thought Gemma looked more relaxed this week, and she was smiling whilst I was watching her.  Hard comments from Shirley and a few of the others. At least Gemma managed to do a full VW which is more than most contestants have managed so far. She lost a shoe on one of the many pivots this week. No sympathy. Last week her ribs were strapped up and she had several lifts. Give the girl a break.

Why no criticism for Alexandra messing about on the gantry. I don't want to see her warming up hooking a leg over the iron work when Gorka's standing nearby. The AT was ok, and worthy of 9s for me, but not in the same class as Rachel & Vin cent's, or even Karen & Ramps. No atmosphere, no sizzle or connection.

Why no criticism for An ton for time wasting with those stupid hats and canes? Where's the 10 second rule this week?

Why no constructive criticism for budgie? Again, it was good, and 9s for me but not a 10. I don't like all the lifts in the Salsa, it disrupts the Latin flow that the judges are always banging on about. If they put one in next week for their Samba I'll be miffed.

Conversely, surely by week 8 no-one should be worthy of marks less than 5? If so, what have the contestants spent the last 10 weeks learning?

More encouragement please. More constructive criticism please. Cheer up for goodness sake. You're on 'Strictly' not a dancing version of 'Cold Case Review'
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  saxonsiren on Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:56 pm

Good to hear from you B4p ☺️

I agree that judges comments have gone a little under the belt and it's uncomfortable now.
10 second rule seems to be mentioned when it suits.
I also hated the faffing and messing with legs caressing the balcony rails and stairs. Favourites should also be given a few comments re mistakes in routine or ongoing pigeon toes rather than glossing over them and giving a 10 No
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  Twirlie on Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:02 pm

saxonsiren wrote:
10 second rule seems to be mentioned when it suits.
Doesn't it apply to the middle of the dance rather than at the beginning or the end?
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Re: Judges 2017

Post  mauveangel09 on Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:54 pm

B4P - you have summed it up perfectly in your post, I agree 100%

I think the '10s' have come out far too early this year (even CRH) and then they don't become special enough - it is as though every time someone does a good dance they feel obliged to throw in a '10' and it just doesn't leave the couples anywhere to go, except down. At the other end of the scale how can it be week 8 with '4s' flying around?? Everyone left in has worked very hard to get this far - there needs to be some levelling of the marks at Blackpool and in the weeks after - otherwise we will have perfect '40s' every week until the final..................... Sleep

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Re: Judges 2017

Post  Sid on Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:47 pm

Good rant B4. The judges seemed overly lenient and gushy with some and ripped others to shreds. There needed to be more of a happy medium.

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